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Visual Studio 2005 Distributed on a stack of Punch Cards


April 21, 2006 12:27 AM PST

Ok, not really, but close. I just picked up a copy of VS 2005 Pro from the MS company store. I went to install it and what do I find? A pile of CDs! Seriously this is 2006. All I want is for massive programs like VS to be distributed on a DVD. Is that too much to ask? I should not have to sit there and feed it 5 CDs. All the computers I own have DVD drives. How can you be a serious developer and not have a DVD drive? I mean they are less than $20. Have you seen what they charge for VS 2005 Pro? It lists for 499.99. Can you possibly afford that and not already have a DVD drive? Oh man.

Comments (10)
Paul, April 21, 2006 01:26 AM:

Luckily, my punch card reader is USB 2.

J, April 21, 2006 08:39 AM:

Totally agree. BTW - Mac OS X comes on DVD.

Paul, April 21, 2006 12:00 PM:

For the price, they probably could have bundled a DVD drive with VS.

J, April 22, 2006 12:44 AM:

LOL - that's what I told John today. They could actually use the DVD drive as a "box" with the DVD already in there.

Paul, May 10, 2006 07:43 PM:

Well, the install went very smoothly unlike say, Visual Studio 2003 which wanted you to swap in and out CDs like 17 times and reboot and crash.

Don't get me started on the (complete lack of) compatibility between VS project files, though. It's not like those files are stored in some easily parsable format designed to degrade nicely when read by old versions of the software. Oh wait, it is: xml. Seriously, how much talent does it take to completely miss the *entire point* of xml? Wheee...

Paul, May 10, 2006 07:55 PM:

When I installed an upgrade to Xcode and opened an older project file, it converted the file and saved it with a new file extension:

old: foo.xcode
new: foo.xcodeproj

Now, keeping those in files in sync would be a pain if your team was using several different versions of Xcode.

Then again, Xcode project files are, you guessed it, xml. So why these tools (meant both literally and insultingly) can't just ignore xml tags they don't understand is ridic.

J, May 10, 2006 10:20 PM:

Yeah, project files are a huge pain. At a minimum they should have compatibility mode you can save as, just like you can save as "word 6" or "rtf" from all later versions of word. I like how "wheeee" is now an indication of dumbness in MS products. LOL.

Paul, May 30, 2006 11:49 PM:

I love it when Visual Studio can't connect to my Pocket PC, telling me "Please download the latest version of ActiveSync" when I already have the latest version installed. An MS dev tool running on an MS operating system talking to an MS mobile device through MS sync software AND IT DOESN'T WORK! What is wrong over there? Even Apple's iTunes and iPod running on Windows sync just fine!

Dear Mr. Gates, I know that you really want to build an ajaxy, web 2.0 search engine and advertizing system like all the cool kids are doing today, but don't you think it might be a good idea to focus on your real mission and start by fixing all your busted products first?

Everytime I try to do anything with my Pocket PC that is slightly more complicated than syncing a file to it, I feel like I'm getting punched in the head. It's like Microsoft is actively trying to make their mobile products fail: the worst DRM possible for ebooks, devices that can't talk to dev tools, mangling document formats when syncing, Plays For Sure... it just goes on.

Please Apple, release the iPhone.

Paul, May 31, 2006 12:04 AM:

As J would say, "worth it".

J, June 5, 2006 08:37 AM:

LOL - yeah, that's funny.

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